According to the Bible, Adam was created in God’s image approximately 6000 years ago. Now that we are beginning to understand DNA, we can determine Adam’s DNA; and by understanding Adam’s DNA, and how it relates to us, we can make some significant progress in understanding who we really are and how we fit into the Kingdom of God.
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (KJV)
So, Adam became a living soul, the first living soul. This means that he necessarily had all of the human genetic variations in his DNA. Everyone, including Eve, came from Adam’s DNA.
(Note: If the Bible proclaimed that the first human were a woman, the Bible would be in error since women do not have the Y-Chromosome, without which man could not have been formed from the woman’s rib DNA. This is why it is called the Bible.)
Every human being has two sets of genes, one from their father and one from their mother. These genes are generally dominant or recessive. If you get two dominant genes, that trait will be dominant. If you get two recessive genes, that trait will be recessive. If you get one dominant and one recessive gene, that trait will be dominant. This means that Adam had one dominant and one recessive gene for each trait; so, in effect, we know Adam’s DNA and we have an idea what he looked like: he had dominant genetic traits.
Humans have approximately 22,000 genes and combinations of these genes give us variation in physical appearance such as eye color, nose shape, foot size, etc. These genes also affect our abilities and personality.
So, we know that Adam had all human variation in him and therefore one dominant and one recessive gene for each of the genes. Based on current understanding of dominant traits, we can be reasonably sure that Adam had unattached earlobes, dimples, was right handed, had a widow’s peak hairline, and curly hair. All of these traits are dominant traits.
This is all very interesting, but, now we need to get into the spiritual: Adam embodied all of humanity, including Eve and you and me. Please read this one very carefully, the key word here is “them”:
Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.(KJV)
So, all of humanity was created on day six. Adam was formed and given life after God’s rest, Eve was formed and given life shortly thereafter, and you and I were formed and given life in our mother’s womb. This is why God said to Jeremiah:
Jeremiah 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee . . . (KJV)
When Adam sinned, he became corruptible and took on the sin nature. Since Adam embodied all of humanity, we all went down with him and also took on the sin nature. Part of this sin nature is the corruption of our genes in the form of mutations. Today, every generation has approximately 70 more genetic mutations than the previous generation. These mutations can result in deformation, disorders and disease; genetic mutations are never good. This is a bit discouraging, but we have the promise that in a twinkling of an eye, our DNA will be restored to the day 6 splendor. This is good news, this is the Gospel.
I Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
I Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
I Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (KJV)
My dear friends and children, we have gone through much here on earth, but our future is very bright: We have the hope of being redeemed and restored to our original , day six, self.
To do: Study some basic biology with your children in the context of the Bible:
(1) Learn about recessive and dominant genes.
(2) Put together a list of Adam’s probable physical traits.
would you explain about the genetic of “nephilim”/giants in genesis 6 that told in the book of Enoch as the descendant of fallen angels and man’s daughters ?thank you. and God bless you
It is our opinion that the nephilim/giants were the first genetic mutations recorded in the Bible which resulted from Adam eating the first GMO food. We also believe that the “sons of God” were those defined in the parable of the “wheat and tares.” They are the righteous line from Adam. The daughters of men were those born in the line of Cain. We will be releasing a teaching on this soon. It is a fascinating account and we believe that the genetic mutations and the sons of God marrying the daughters of men helped lead God to stating that He was sorry He had mad man-kind.
why not straight way give reply to tumpak and francis, you said niphilims are descendants of adam resulting to eating the fruit then why giants only born after the angels seduced the daughters of men? the bible said the cause are fallen (evil)angels not adam, but u admitted something in “fruit” that is not good, who put it there? GOD? you said daughters are line of Cain seduced by evil-angels,resulting giants. This you admit the first earth generations are Cain’s not Seth’s are you saying something of who CAIN is?
to francis- outside genesis or the First Book of Adam and Eve (life in the Garden) said Cain hav twin sister LULUWAH he married and carried away after killing Abel. The seduction of angels is in the Second book of Adam and Eve(life outside the garden)or life on earth after the Fall. DEAR ADMIN, MY QUEST IS WHAT IS “PUT”‘IN THE FRUIT THAT IS THE START OF SIN? WHO PUT-IT-THERE? THE DEVIL IS TEMPTING HUMANS FROM ADAM AND EVE TO THE GENERATIONS, EVEN AFTER NOAH AND THE PREACHERS SAID UNTIL TODAY, QUESTION IS WHY CAN’T GOD STOP HIM BUT ONLY SAVING HUMANS? IS CAIN SON OF THE SERPENT UNDER SATAN’S SPIRIT? NO QUESTION ALL ARE CREATED BUT WERE ADAM AND EVE WE “CREATED” OR “FORMED” FROM THE DUST OF THE “CREATED” EARTH?
Wow, you have a lot of comments; here are our answers:
(1) The serpent put the evil and DNA mutations in the fruit. We can prove this by the scriputures where on day 6 God said everything was very good, implying that the evil had not yet been planted. It was planted on day 7 during the rest.
(2) We will have a blog on this, but the Nephalim existed when the sons of God saw the daughters of men were fair and took them as wives. The Nephalim were not angel half breeds, but were the first documented case of genetic mutations. The sons of God were the righteous line through Seth, the daughters of men were the offspring of Cain. Angels do not have DNA, they are spirits; they must borrow bodies.
(3) We do not accept any writings other than the Bible – that is what we have decided, but we respect any other opinions; we fiercely defend the right to free will.
(4) Cain was a “bad seed” and Seth a “good seed” (See the parable of the wheat and the tares – it is explained) When the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair, the seeds were irreveribly mixed and that is what we have today. This is why God was sorry he had made mankind.
(5) God is in control, totally, but has elected to wait a spell before the judgement.
Thank you so much for your great questions
If angels do not have body,how then did they eat d food Abraham served them with after d came with d news of sarah being pregnant?
I find the use of metaphors brilliant in the bible, I have a problem with the timing, 6000 years would be roughly 4000 bc, there ruins in Turkey 12000 yrs old, this maybe a result of the characters living longer than we could dream. Science will prove the bible as accurate however the timing is off. The seed of Cain is what is trying to enslave us into darkness There is only one God and the lord gave his only son for our sins. I believith therefore I shall live an eternal life.
The timing of the Bible may not be off. Consider the calibration of Carbon 14 dating; secular science does not account for flood effects. Here is our blog that offers a calibration that does consider flood effects.
Radio Carbon dating considering flood effects
What do mean by GMO food
A Genetically Modified Organism is and organism that has been modified by a geneticist for some purpose. For instance, if you take a gene from a turnip and put it into a tomato in hopes of having a longer shelf life. The world presently has many GMOs especially in corn and soybeans.
Thanks, now i can understand what you mean by GMO. But back to the Bible,Genesis 2:17 – the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Eve and Adam knew that they were naked after eating the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden GOD told them not to eat(Genesis 2:17). the consequent of eating the fruit brought them coursed (Genesis 3:14-19).the result of Eve listening to serpent brought Cain (serpent Seed)tree yielding fruit after his kind. Could GMO food caused conception?
“Then came the serpent who injected something (the first GMO – genetically modified organism) into man using the forbidden fruit; this fruit changed man’s DNA, man now had the “sinful nature;” he was “carnal” and driven by his “flesh.””
Absolute rubbish,that statement it’s more pro gmo than anything else.
Rina,
Please explain, your statement is loose; please tighten it up a bit with some clarification.
Admin
However, chromosome 22 and 23 are not produced by this ideology but if you consider the parental unit as organisms then I agree however this was not a mutation produce by a lab but I am confident in my example it is caused by recessive trait combined with one unit of the parents having a history of inbreeding or a large gap in age between the two.
Since GOD is all knowing he must have known the out come. If Eve was made from Adam’s rib her D&A should have been the same as Adam’s since they would be one flesh.
Their children should all have the same D&A. People now have parent’s from two people with different set’s of genes their children genes are different because they have two parents whose gene’s are different to start with.
It only makes science if Eve was made from Adam alone here D&A should be
identical to Adams. If the Son’s of God ( who ever they were) came down and
mated with Adam & Eve’s daughter’s then their offspring would different as they come from different gene pools. (I still don’t understand it all.)
Phil,
It is important that you understand how DNA works. Adam had DNA which included dominant and recessive genes. Eve had the identical DNA with the exception of the Y-chromosome. However, their children had a combination of Adam and Eve’s DNA; some of the children’s genes were double recessive or double dominant; therefore, the children had different DNA than either Adam or Eve. This is basic genetics.
Thank you for your interest in the things of God.
Admin
You were headed in the right direction then you lost it. I’m not trying to be insulting just expressing the truth.
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Your teaching and the messages in the Bible are quiet difficult to understand Among many other questions I have this particular one: It appears like a part from The descendandts of Adam there were some other human beeing on earth. Where did Cains wife come from?
Dear Francis,
We at Genesis and Genetics are confident that Cain married his sister. This was not a problem from a genetic standpoint since there were probably very few genetic mutations in those days. Genetic mutations are the reason for siblings and cousins not inter marrying. Even Abraham married his half sister. Also, both genesis (Genesis 3:20) and genetics (Mitochondrial DNA) maintain that we all came from one woman. We will write a blog on this with details.
I would like to know who that one woman is. I’ve been waiting a very long time in a world where everything resolves around men .
Kellee,
I do not understand the genders. However, the most important things in life appear to revolve around women. When men die in foxholes, they don’t call our “dad,” they call out “mom.” There is nothing more important in life than raising children. Children are our future. Some men are considered great, and some are considered failures. Many times the difference between a man’s success and failure is a woman.
Men and women are genetically the same except for the Y-chromosome and a couple of hundred imprinted genes. By faith, I assume that God did what He did for a reason, and the creation is perfect. But, from my perspective, women appear to have more power than men. I suspect that Adam would agree with me. We’ll ask him someday.
Admin
Surely then, shouldn’t Noah’s sons and their wifes have mutated genes since around 1600 years elapsed since Adam? With whom could they safely mate?
They could safely mate with their second, third, fourth and fifth cousins. And probably their first cousins. The dangerous mutations were yet to appear or spread out.
Very interesting.
since god made adam from the earth then would’ent his blood type also be earth bound since our blood has Iron and zing and water like the earth.it says in genesis god gave adam breath and he became a living soul does not mention if the blood line or dna is earth bound or heavenly…positive or negative…can you answer and back it up with the kjv bible please…thank you…and god bless.
Mary,
This is a great question and this is what we think based on our present understanding of the scriptures:
1. When Adam was created, he was immortal (Genesis 3:3).
2. Jesus, in earthly body form, was immortal (John 10:17).
3. Jesus and Adam had the same DNA. and therefore the same blood type (1 corinthians 15:45).
4. Present day blood types, A,B,AB, and O are results of mutations. (our analysis)
5. The life is in the blood (John 6:54).
6. The four blood types could not come from two humans (Adam and Eve) with the same DNA (our analysis).
7. Our conclusion is that the DNA of Jesus’ holds the key to immortality and is unknown at this time. However, we at genesisandgenetics are trying to understand it better, based on what we know about modern blood types and ancient, pre-flood, blood types.
Thank you for your comment and your interest in the kingdom of God.
bible verses saying Cain is the “son of the wicked One” even Jesus said, ” if i say that the father is in me, i in the father and you still ask for the father, your FATHER IS THE DEVIL (SATAN), HE IS A KILLER OF OLD TIMES(CAIN), A LIAR AND FATHER OF IT” IF admin found out CAIN “realy” son of the serpent (cum SATAN)to EVE and SETH is the son of ADAM to EVE
questions now lies what line I,you,me,even mary mcpeter come from? if we all come from SETH line no need for Jesus but Jesus identifies all from Judas to all the apostles who are they (Gospel of Judas)even he identifies his body or the sacrificial lamb. Paul in one of your given verses here, identifies himself in the line of Cain, Paul fully understand Jesus and the scriptures identification of flesh and spirit and the in-fighting within him “doing sin is flesh” and doing good is spirit” in every human, no hypocrites in Paul like Judas, its not betrayal but to become holy as they were sinful-representatives-apostles when Jesus said on him, “identify them when they will replace you without my command” after that you will become the 13th apostle outside of sinful-12, which Judas understood and accepted Jesus command to surrender him to the “religious priest” to order his killing by blasphemy and not to the Romans, jesus knew no roman law has he violated that will cause his death. this is the Age of TRUTH, where lies will be exposed and the TRUTH came out. Psalm 85.11 “the truth must spring out of this earth, (so that) righteousness (will come) in heaven” MORE TRUTH COMING
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1 Corinthians 15:35But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 36Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
(Isaiah 57:1-2)
50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
Thank you for this scripture.
Nope!! Jesus is God!!
Jesus is 100% God. Jesus is 100% a man. He very often (80 times in the scripture) addressed himself as “the Son of man”, which emphasizes his humanity. The great truth revealed in the New Testament is that the eternal God became one of us; He became a human being.
“Who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made himself of no reputation, taking the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of humanity.” (Philippians 2:6,7).
God became a human in Jesus Christ. Jesus is the eternal God who became flesh and blood. Jesus became a man at a point in time in history. He did so without giving up His oneness with God. He became a human being without a sin nature. “In flesh” means more than Jesus had a physical body – He was a complete human personality.
While remaining God, Jesus took upon a new nature – a human nature. The incarnation was the uniting the divine and the human into one being, one person. Jesus Christ was fully God and fully human. ❤️
You said man was created before 6000 years. But we got scientific evidence that human and Neanderthals lived before that nearly 12000 years ago(Source: “Scientific America” ). So there is a conflict in this I think so. Pardon me if I were wrong,I don’t mean to falsify Bible, but to have clear truth about Bible.
Antony,
We feel that the Bible is correct in its timeline in that the world is approximately 6000 years old. We also feel that the scientific evidence supports this. Secular scientist have accepted the hypothesis that the world is billions of years old. However, it is all based on circular reasoning, loose statements, and lies. Please research this on your own and you will see. Let me give you just a couple of reasons that we believe the earth is young. (1) There is only 5000 years of human history. Humans, by nature, are historians and would have recorded it 12000 years ago, 20,000 years ago, and 100,000 years ago. The other reason we believe the earth is young is there is evidence all over the world of a world wide flood. There are mud, sedimentary rock, deposits everywhere. The proof of the flood destroys all possibilities of evolution and also places Neanderthal as pre-flood man. But, don’t believe us, and definitely don’t believe evolutionist, but find out for yourself.
As I understand it is that the Neanderthals and also the Hominid creatures were still in existence until about 60,000 years ago and they and the dinosaurs for some reason all died off . I have a theory as to the why , but it is just a theory .
hi i am very interested about the Bible truth.and information from you are satisfying Biblical FAQ scientifically analyzed its i just thought I had to tell you.thanks! and also those who ask questions here are very clever too i am learning a lot here.if it is not too much could you give me some advice on how to study more about the the science of the Bible some books,sites,articles,people,info,topics.thanks and ill be a regular visitor here hope to learn more.
James Ussher gave us the 6000 year earth. Consider the fact that his calculations did not take into account all the people in the world. ignoring all other truth is the only way you can say that god made 2 people 6000 years ago and now we have 7 billion. there are other calendars that this guy knew nothing about that were all over Africa. Lets not forget the Mayan Calendar which list 4 cycles of about 6400 years. Not to make this cultural, but the only way you get this is by ignoring every other relevant culture before Europe. I mean the 6000 year earth can’t exist before this guy made it up. lets be logical. this guy was born around 1580. So what was in the bible before he came up with the calculation? Also, he made the calculation in the 1600. how did the calculation end up in a bible that was written 1600 years before that? That in itself shows that the 6000 year earth has been INCLUDED in canonical scripture via RECENT MAN. This guy is not listed as an apostle in any scripture so how does it (6000 year earth) get in the bible? I listed how he made the calculation below. I look forward to your answer.
But Ussher’s last extra-biblical co-ordinate was the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar, and beyond this point he had to rely on other considerations. Faced with inconsistent texts of the Torah, each with a different number of years between Flood and Creation, Ussher chose the Masoretic version. Partly his reasons were sound scholarly ones [citation needed]— the Masoretic text claims an unbroken history of careful transcription stretching back centuries — but his choice was confirmed for him, because it placed Creation exactly four thousand years before 4 BC, the generally accepted date for the birth of Christ; moreover, he calculated, Solomon’s temple was completed in the year 3000 from creation, so that there were exactly 1000 years from the temple to Christ, who was the fulfillment of the Temple.[7]
Darnell,
I love when people are interested in the scriptures and spend some time at them. Keep it up and thank you for the very good question.
Here is our logic for the 6000 year old earth:
It is all about the Hebrews. God chose Moses to lead Israel out of captivity. He spent time with Moses on the mountain and when Moses returned from the meeting with God, he, Moses, had the first five books of the Bible. As you read them you see that they came directly from God through Moses. Therefore, at that time, they were as perfect as could be in the form of human written language. We are not sure if Adam wrote any of Genesis or not, but it doesn’t matter, when Moses brought them down from the mountain, they were correct. These books contain the time frame of the creation. There were no gaps in the first six days of creation due to Exodus 20:9-11. Then came Jesus approximately 2000 years ago; He validated the Holy Scriptures as they existed in the synagogues. Jesus read the scriptures and never edited or criticized them. So, whatever the scriptures said in the Hebrew synagogues was validated by Jesus and we can be assured they were correct. We have those same scriptures now. If you go to a modern-day synagogue and ask to buy a “Holy Scriptures,” you will see they have them for sale and there is only one version. The are the same scriptures Jesus had, only translated into English. The Dead Sea Scrolls support this as well. By the way, the King James is very close to the Hebrew “Holy Scriptures.”
So, our conclusion is that the Torah is clear and accurate on the dates. There is a bit of confusion concerning the captivity, but I won’t go into that now; but, we feel that the 6000 year age of the earth is quite close and that is our reasoning.
Admin
Please,what proves that God is God of Trinity? ,what signifies Jesus,saying I and my father are one ?.
Thank you.
Dominic,
The word “trinity” is not a Biblical word; however, most Christians believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, all of whom are God. Trinity is just a convenient word to use to describe the three.
Thank you for your interest,
Admin
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I mean, the Malibu Surfing Association just took me in as an Honorary Member.
Sandra Dee stars in the title role, with Darren as her leading man.
What do you think of Gregg Braden’s God code book and the DNA message he decoded in the DNA “God eternal within the body”?
If the first GMO was in the garden then what is satanically inspired Monsanto doing feeding the population with GMOs that cross animals, insects and virus DNA into the plants DNA altering mankind DNA when we eat the GMO foods?
I am connecting the dots to the sickness storm in America and I see GMOS being the great pressure that causes our DNA to be destroyed, making us susceptible to sickness and disease as never before. I am gathering information on what we can do to protect ourselves and our future generations. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
We try to always keep things in perspective. On day six of creation God said that the entire creation was “very good;” He didn’t say it was perfect nor did He say optimum. We are currently studying hybrids and realize that there is much stability in the creation so that everything, in general, reverts to stable and very good. We know that hybrid apples are better, at least tasting, than heritage apples. We also know that hybrid corn, soybeans and wheat improve yields. God could have very easily made it impossible to hybridize the species, but He didn’t. So, concerning the GMOs, they are potentially very dangerous and we need to use caution; but, the creation was designed to allow humanity to create GMOs. Life is very complex, and we who believe must rely on the Holy Spirit to guide us in all things. This is what we suggest: allow the Holy Spirit to teach you about GMOs and guide you in your actions. This is what we are doing.
how many days to created earth from the bible
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
This is wrong Adam and eve sinned nearly 6000 years ago because their was no death or age until they sinned.
What about polydactyly? If Adam and Jesus had only the dominant traits shouldn’t they have had polydactyly? Btw I really appreciate your articles they are really interesting and I also believe that there is a strong connection between science and God
First of all Adam, just like us, had two copies of each gene. However, each of his genes had one dominant and one recessive copy. He didn’t have just dominant genes; he had to have them all. This is the case if you accept the Bible, or if you accept evolution.
Also, polydactyly, e.g. six fingers or toes, is a result of genetic mutations; and neither Adam nor Jesus had any mutations. Adam probably did have mutations after the original sin, but to what extent we are not sure. Thank you for your interesting question
Admin
That’s it!I’ve read in your article about mutations but didn’t know that polydactyly is a mutation I didn’t really have time to read about it I only knew that it was a dominant gene from school so the question came in my mind from nowhere so I decided to ask you about this. Thank you for clarifying me. One curiosity: are you geneticists or anything related to this domain?
Yes we are.
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Brown/black skin is also a dominant trait. Ditto eyes.
Could you please share your scientific citations? I did not see them in your article. Thank you.
WP,
This is not a technical document, but rather the opinion of the author. The opinion is backed up by scriptures which we consider the best of all references. The rest is generally accepted. Dominant and recessive genes are much more complicated, but it this blog becomes too complicated, we will lose everyone and won’t get our point across.
If you have any problem with any specific portion of the science, please let me know and I will either supply you with a reference or change the blog.
The number of human genes in the genome and the number of additional genetic mutations per generation change in the scientific community from time to time, but generally the consensus is close to the numbers I have given.
Thank you for your comments and interest
Admin
As I think the bible is not really meant to be taken literally, and because of the fact that I know a bit about science and how the age of the earth and various life forms were SCIENTIFICALLY determined, I am totally STUNNED and FLABBERGASTED that someone like YOU–who actually SEEMS somewhat intelligent and open minded–really thinks the earth is only 6000 years old! Are you serious?
Do you REALLY honestly think that your opinions would stand up to rigorous scientific scrutiny? There are PLENTY of pre-homo sapiens bi-pedal species(as well as dinosurs and many other species that greatly predate them) that were SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to be MUCH older than 6000 years!
Come on guys(and/or gals), get real!
Jer,
Thank you for your sincerity and very important question. Also, thank you for the compliment of being “somewhat intelligent and open minded.” I am open minded and have been a scientist most of my adult life. I have studied every aspect of the creation: radio isotopic dating, quantum physics, geology, biology, physics, cosmology, tree rings, the fossil record, and above all genetics. And, after all of that, I am honestly stunned that anyone believes in evolution and the old earth. I am just being honest.
If you dig into it, you will find that our secular scientists have no idea about outer space; they are very confused about dark mass and energy; they have no clue about gravity and how it works; they have no clue how life started except the theory that it started from a wet rock on another planet; they have no idea how mass was created except the hypothesis that everything came from nothing, by accident; they are clueless about where the physical laws came from and how they evolved, so they concluded that there have been trillions of trillions of universes that came from nothing and went back to nothing until the one universe we have now had all the right stuff and survived.
In answer to your question, yes I do believe the Bible is correct in all ways. It is correct in history, prophesy, science and life. I have read the Bible for the last 50 years daily and it has transformed my life and is the basis for all science. I love it.
Jer, I suggest that you take any one aspect of science and concentrate on just that and follow it back to its most basic parts and you will see the Bible is right. If you do this let me know which aspect you have chosen and I will give you my findings.
Thank you again for you very nice comment and compliment,
Admin
You include exact WORDING of various old testament scripture(that you espouse as being totally literal–BASED ON YOUR FAITH alone) in your explanations and arguments.
But I saw NOT ONE single scientific study(ie–or other examples of REAL, legitimate “evidence”) from you that contradicts your party line and, in the minds of MANY MANY truth seeking scientists, archeologists, and anthropologists scientifically proves that the age of the earth(and even various species that greatly pre-date humans) are MUCH, MUCH older than 6000 years!
If you feel that the “mountain” of accrued scientific evidence(ie–like that derived from radio carbon dating, for example, which is just ONE of MANY ways used to determine the age of something) is NOT LEGIT, tell us WHY! But be sure your arguments are “EVIDENCE BASED” and as FACTUAL as possible–and NOT just verbatim wording from the Old Testament!
Your saying that the accrued scientific evidence is no more than fallacious “circular reasoning” and thus NOT legitimate, without providing any REAL EVIDENCE to back you up, is very disingenuous and just plain dumb.
If it is TRUTH that you are after, and not just “preaching your faith”, then you SHOULD INCLUDE at least SOME of the myriad and readily available contradictory, scientific evidence along with your “word for word”, literal interpretation of scripture.
Saying that something is true “cuz the Bible says so”(or “cuz YOU say so”) is VERY naïve and narrow minded(though I support your right to say whatever you want). But if you want to be intellectually HONEST and FAIR, then you need more REAL EVIDENCE than just “cuz the Bible says so”!
Jeb,
Ok, I will take one issue and give you some specifics. Let’s take carbon dating. Carbon dating is good science, but the calibration can mislead you. Consider the scientist who says a Neanderthal bone is 30,000 years old. He assumes carbon 14 levels have been the same for many thousands, if not millions of years, and he calibrated his dates by tree rings. His dates are right if his assumptions are right. However, the Bible says that Neanderthal cannot be more than 6000 years old. So let’s look at this. If you look at the recent history of carbon 14 levels, you will see that they doubled in the 1950’s when they were doing atomic bomb testing. This was a concern, then they stopped the testing in the atmosphere. One would assume that the carbon 14 levels would have reduced in accordance with their half life of 5730 years, but they didn’t; they reduced quickly back to the pre-bomb-testing levels in only 30 years. What happened? The carbon 14 was absorbed into the ocean. The ocean is a carbon sink when not in equilibrium with the air. So, in the Biblical model, there was a global flood, where the fountains of the deep opened up with water that was very low on carbon 14 and changed the levels of everything. Also, we know from the Bible and modern science that the atmosphere was much different before the flood, e.g. giant insects like dragon flies with 2-3 foot wing spans. In summary the carbon levels were different before the flood, during the flood, and shortly after the flood: ( approx 1000 years). Therefore, making these corrections, it is easy to see how the Neanderthal dating can be quite erroneous, and we have concluded that the Neanderthal lived from 6000 to 4500 years before present. I am very confident in this. So, it depends on which model you use; use the old earth model, you get 30000 years; use the Bible model, you get 6000 – 4500 years.
Here is a bit of trivia: Right now in the oceans there is much water in the deep that would date at thousands of years old. If you change the currents and expose this water to the atmosphere, you will get a very low concentrations in the atmosphere which would cause a large error for our friends in the future doing carbon dating.
Another piece of trivia: in one years time, every carbon atom in you body is replaced by one from an outside source, like food.
Also, please note that the tree ring dating beyond approximately 2000 years is done by best fit curve fitting.
This is one of the greatest miracles of the creation: God has allowed us to have two models and believe the one we want: God or no God. He is not pushy.
I do respect you and whatever you choose to believe, but I am firm in my believe that the Bible is God’s Word and true.
Thank you for your question.
Admin
Lastly, you said above that “the scriptures are the BEST OF ALL REFERENCES”.
Huh?
WHY do you say that? –other than your desire to preach your faith(which is fine, and does serve the purpose of giving equanimity to the many Judeo Christian faithful). But is DEFINITELY NOT scientific, factual, or evidence based
Your dogmatic statement that the Bible is “the BEST REFERENCE”–without any supportive proof, just doesn’t hold water.
Jer,
I do believe that the Bible is the Word of God and, therefore, the only source of truth.
The Bible stands through the millennia because:
(1) It is historically accurate. Just the last couple of centuries the Bible has been proven accurate concerning Early civilization and cities. Nineveh was found along with Ur, Calah, Erech, and many, many more. The Bible nails down exact names, parentage, cities, kings, places and events. These are all being verified. Just recently, the slavery in Egypt, the Exodus, and the conquest of Israel are being validated. To the creationist, the evidence of the flood is evident with marine fossils on mount Everest, the layers of silt, Cambrian explosion, carbon dating of dinosaur bones etc. To us it is all very clear.
(2) Scientifically, the Bible is correct on everything. Cosmology: the universe did have a finite beginning – everything came from the Word of God; dark matter and energy – God stretched the heavens, the universe is expanding and accelerating due to dark mass (Genesis ch 1); time is relative a Biblical principle that was just recently discovered by Einstein; all things that exist are a function of e to the i times theta which also describes speech – God did speak all things into existence.
(3) Genetics: The Bible got it right – all humans came from a man, not a woman (the woman doesn’t have the Y-chromosome). All DNA necessary to make a woman is in man’s rib. All humanity diversity comes from one couple (Adam and Eve). Epigenetics is a function of things not seen; we are not a slave to our DNA. Genetic imprinting keep men men and women women. DNA is described by scientists using term like proof-reading genes, genetic code, transcription, translation, etc. just like the Bible says: we are the Word; we are spoken into existence. The director of the secular human genome project wrote a book “DNA the language of God. ” His name is Francis Collins.
(4) The best proof of the Bible is its prophesy. There are thousands of prophecies in the Bible that verify its origin. Many have come to pass, many are being observed right now, and some are yet to occur. Study them and you will see. There is no other book like the Bible
(5) The Bible has the power to heal the broken-hearted. I love to read books, but I have never read the same book twice except the Bible. I read it every day and have read it many times. I am not alone, it still out sells any other books.
Jer, I am just answering your question. Whatever you choose to believe is fine with me and I respect it.
I will leave you with one bit of prophesy. In the Book of Daniel, it states that in the last days the beast (from Satan) will war with the saints, and the beast will win. This is what is happening right now; it is prophesy. Those who want to take down the Bible are winning- not because the Bible isn’t true, but because they control the world.
Thank you for your sincerity and good comments,
Admin
jer f, i support you . i dont think so that bible is only correct hinduism is more older than christ . i dont oppose your religion , i just wanna inform you .
dont think i am opposing even my GF is also roman christian .
and please share more information like this
i m really intrested in this .
and kindly tell me that these all stuffs comes in which biology branch
VERY GOOD