This blog presents several additional points to support the notion that Neanderthal is antediluvian man, i.e. those who lived before the Biblical flood. In 2012, we presented evidence, based on partial mitochondrial DNA sequences, that Neanderthal is indeed our direct, antediluvian ancestor 1. We now have more evidence that solidifies our position. When Neanderthal fossils were discovered in the mid-1800s, Neanderthals were portrayed as ignorant ape-men, but now with the advent of DNA sequencing, they are being portrayed quite differently. More and more they are being portrayed as fully human like us. They are seizing their rightful position in the history of man: our direct line ancestors: the sons and daughters of Adam who lived before the global flood. The following points should be considered in defense of our stance:
Human Speech
It has been found that the human variation of the FOXP2 gene is present in Neanderthal.2 This FOXP2 gene found in Neanderthal is identical to that of humans living today; this is significant in that FOXP2 plays a major role in human speech 3, separating us from the animal kingdom. This finding coupled with the fact that Neanderthals had brains larger than present-day humans4 could suggest that they were more articulate than we.
Genetic Similarity The present-day human and Neanderthal genomes appear to be at least 99.5% identical 5. This difference is statistically the same as some of the latest estimates of genetic differences within the present-day human genome (99.5%) 6. Clearly Neanderthal is fully human; however, since his DNA markers do not exactly align with any present-day family groups or any post-flood family groups, he must be placed as antediluvian man, our pre-flood ancestor. Note: these DNA markers (single nucleotide polymorphism-SNPs) constitute only 0.3% of the human genome 7 and are useful in determining parentage.
Y-chromosome and mitochondrial sequences
To better understand how the mitochondrial and Y-chromosomal DNA supports our position, consider our version of the human family tree:
Figure 1. Human Family Tree
The family tree above shows that the roots of the tree represent the Neanderthals; the stump represents Noah and his family; and the branches and leaves represent us, the present-day nations and family groups. The trunk of the tree represents the genetic reset performed by God during or just after the flood; this reset set in motion human DNA compatible with the new ecosystem and lifespan 11. Neanderthal fossils have been found in France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Russia, Siberia, Iraq, Israel, Belgium, and Uzbekistan. These Neanderthals are all offspring of Adam and Eve. The Neanderthals died 
in the flood with the exception of Noah and his family. Since the post-flood ecosystem and human lifespan were much different than the original ecosystem and lifespan, God performed a genetic reset preparing humanity for the new environment and lifespan. One would expect that human DNA sequences prior to Noah and his family would be very similar, but not align exactly with any post-flood nation or family group. And they don’t.
A portion of Y-chromosome data has been extracted from Neanderthal fossils. As expected, these sequences do not align exactly with any modern man Y-chromosome nation or family group 8. If they did, one would conclude that Neanderthal was post-flood. But they do not, and, therefore, must be the root. This is a very significant finding for which we have been anxiously waiting. Now, we know that, like the mitochondrial DNA, Y-chromosomal DNA shows that Neanderthals are fully human but are the roots of the tree, not the branches and leaves.
Also, now that we have the full mitochondrial sequences, we find that they, like the Y-chromosome sequences, support our original conclusions: Neanderthal is antediluvian man.
Ruddy/Rosy Complexion
We, at Genesis and Genetics, have concluded that Adam and Eve had red hair and rosy complexions. This conclusion was reached due to the fact that God gave Adam his name which means “red.” The accompanying rosy complexion is compatible with the pre-flood atmosphere. Just lately, using advanced sequencing tools, scientists have found that two Neanderthal fossils had genes for red hair and ruddy complexions 9. It is difficult to find Neanderthal DNA with these genes intact, so, as far as I know, these are the only two tested for red hair and rosy complexions. It is also, noteworthy that these Neanderthals came from two different locations: one from Spain and the other from Italy. Our model predicts that Neanderthal would, like Adam and Eve, require complexions compatible with the pre-flood atmosphere.
Cannibalism
A recent excavation of a site in Belgium has added evidence to the existing view that Neanderthals were sometimes cannibals 10. There are accounts of modern human acts of cannibalism; however, they overwhelmingly occur when humans are forced to choose between cannibalism and starvation. During the flood, the Bible implies that all humanity didn’t die at once, and some could have survived for many months in the water (Genesis 7:19-24). The Neanderthal, being very intelligent, would be in boats, on rafts, or clinging to the large floating mats of debris; but faced with starvation they may very well have resorted to cannibalism. The caves, being the flood drainage pipes, would and do harbor the evidence of this cannibalism.
Summary
Evidence continues to accumulate that Neanderthals were the offspring of Adam and Eve, and our pre-Noah ancestors. Our version of the human family tree is presented above; had it not been for Adam’s sin, it would look quite different; but Adam did sin and Noah found grace in the eyes of the Creator, thereby forming the bottleneck (family tree stump). Then God chose to make changes in human physiology, including reduced lifespan, all of which required a genetic reset (the trunk of the family tree). Here is a summary of the additional evidence for our version of the family tree:
(1) Neanderthal has the FOXP2 gene identical to present-day humans indicating that they had human speech capabilities.
(2) Neanderthal DNA signature is incongruous with any modern nation or family group. This is true for both Mitochondrial DNA (inherited from the mother) and Y-Chromosome DNA (inherited from the father). The only place available for Neanderthal on the family tree is the roots, our roots.
(3) Neanderthal fossils show evidence of cannibalism. Human cannibalism has a history of occurring primarily when there is some catastrophic event which deprives them of food.
(4) The Neanderthal DNA, so far tested, show evidence of red hair and ruddy complexions which would be compatible with the pre-flood atmosphere and the name God gave Adam.
(5) The similarities of the present-day human and Neanderthal DNA coupled with the fact that they each have unique DNA markers, positions Neanderthal correctly in Biblical history as antediluvian man.
Note: Our former work and evidence can be found here for the blog https://www.genesisandgenetics.org/2013/11/08/177/ and here for the technical paper https://www.genesisandgenetics.org/Neanderthal_Identity.pdf
We will keep you posted as we find more evidence for our position. We do have more compelling evidence for our model which concerns Neanderthal and carbon dating. This will be published soon. You may subscribe here if you would like to be on our mailing list.
Keywords: antediluvian, pre-flood man, Neanderthal, Neanderthal’s place in human history, Biblical Neanderthal, Neanderthal Bible, Bible Neanderthal, Neanderthal in the Bible
References:
(1) https://www.genesisandgenetics.org/Neanderthal_Identity.pdf
(2) http://www.nature.com/news/2007/071018/full/news.2007.177.html
(3) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/93986
(4) http://www.pnas.org/content/105/37/13764.abstract
(5) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583069/
(6) journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.0050254
(7) https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/primer/genomicresearch/snp
(8) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27058445
(9) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17962522
(10) https://www.nature.com/articles/srep29005
(11) www.genesisandgenetics.org/2016/11/03/divine-genetic-resets/
Could the neanderthals had been the nephlims i.e, the great men of the old.
Ester,
According to our genetic research coupled with the Bible, we believe that all of Adam’s offspring before the flood were Neanderthals. This would include the Nephilim. We also believe that the Nephlim were 100% human, but had the genetic mutation for gigantism, acromegaly, which exists today. You can read about it in our blog, The sons of God and Daughters of Man. Therefore, in answer to your question, yes, we believe that Nephilim were Neanderthals.
Thank you for the good question,
Admin – Genesis and Genetics
Stop lying! CAIN AND ABEL A NEANDERTHAL? NOAH WAS PERFECT IN ALL HIS GENERATIONS HE WAS A DIRECT DESCENDENT OF ADAM! NOAH WAS NOT A NEANDERTHAL! ADAM AND EVE WERE NOT NEANDERTHALS BUT MELINATED PEOPLE LIVING IN PARADISE UNTIL THE NEANDERTHAL GOT TO EMERGE FROM HIS CAVE AND ENTERED THE GARDEN OF EDEN. NEANDERTHALS ARE THE PREADAMIC PEOPLE. WHO DID NOT RECIEVE THE COMMANDMENT ABOUT EATING FROM THE TREE(THEY WERE EATING WOOLY MAMOTHS AND ANCIENT DEER) EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ON EARTH FOR A MUCH LONGER TIME FRAME! ALSO BEING FORAGERS FOR ANYTHING TO EAT IN THE ICE AGE, THE NEANDERTHAL MAN ATE FROM ALL TREES. HE WAS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GARDEN!
SO WHEN DID THIS NEANDERTHAL MAN MERGE WITH MODERN HOMO SAPIENS AND WHY ARE SUB SAHARAN AFRICAN CONSIDERED MODERN HUMANS BUT HAVE NOOOOOOPOOPO NEANDERTHAL DNA. HOW DID THESE ROSY REDHEADS CREATE BLACK PEOPLE? AND WHEN I SAY BLACK I MEAN NOT JUST SUB SAHARAN BUT PEOPLE FROM INDIA AS WELL? THEN THE BROWNER PEOPLE LIKE THE ARABS AND HISPANICS AND TRUE NATIVE AMERICANS, NOT $5 Indians! IF YOUR SAYING PRE FLOOD CONDITIONS THEN WHY ARE THERE STILL WHITE PEOPLE IF EVERYONE ADAPTED TO THE ENVIRONMENT? STOP LYING
NEANDERTHALS ARE CLASSIFIED AS ANIMALS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN AROUND THAT LONG. THEY CAME ON THE SCENE IN THE 1300s AD.
THEY ARE NOT A PART OF HISTORY NOR DO THEY HAVE CLAIMS TO THIS EARTH. MOORS ARE ARE THE MISSING LINK THAT GAVE THEM HUMAN FEATURES. THEY STOLE THE BLACK BRITTAIN IDENTITY AND GAVE IT TO THEM. THEY ARE NOT SAXONS. WERE THE SONS OF ISAAC. NOT THEM. THEY HAVE A 800 YEAR LIFE SPAN. IT CANNOT BE EXTENDED. THIS EARTH REJECTS THEM AND WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO SURVIVE. THERE’S NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
Denisovans went extinct about 50,000 years ago, Neanderthals went extinct between 30,000 and 40,000 years ago even if we were to give Noah and his entire line back to Adam and Eve 1,000 years of life each that would be about 10,000 years of history. Gobekli Tepe is the oldest known temple on Earth and has been dated to Abt 9,500 BC. Abraham according to one source gives his birth around 1974 BC · Mesopotamia from Abraham to Shem let’s give Shem a date around 4,000 to 4500 BC around the time the Sumerians came into existence. Since many people claim Shem is the ancestor of the Sumerians that date makes sense. About 6000 BC sea levels were still rising but about this time the Indian Ocean was rising and flooded the dryland area the size of Britain eventually becoming what we would call the Persian Gulf, the flood peaks around the time of the rise of the Sumerians and later this flood will be recorded in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Gobekli Tepe predates Gilgamesh’s flood story and was dated to Abt 9,500 BC so the flood of Noah predates the building of the temple of Gobekli Tepe since its manmade. The first known farmers date to about 20,000 BC seems like a reasonable date for Adam and Eve to have existed so sometime after 20,000 BC but before 9500 BC Noah’s flood occurs. This means the Denisovans, and Neanderthals would have to be pre-Adamites. This would mean that the ancestors of Adam and Eve go back to at least 60,000 years ago when modern humans acquired Neanderthal DNA through interbreeding.
Out of the thousands of NEPHLIUM giants we tested none of them was a negative rh negative factor blood type , all of them was a RHESES positive blood type with the RHESES factor , antigen, floating on top of the blood surface. In genesis we learned the GOD came into Mary to give her her seed to make Jesus Christ lord savior king. The woman seed Mary , crushed the head of the serpent and the serpent Satan offspring brushed her heal revelation 12:3 to 16 Satan is there to devour the babies as soon as it is born. All animals are RHESES positive blood type not a negative rh negative blood type why they call it a negative blood type the negative blood type is GODS MARY TO MAKE JESUS CHRIST LORD SAVIOR KING
Pure blooded Denisovans and Neanderthals went extinct before Adam and Eve were born. Pure blooded Denisovans went extinct before Neanderthals after that Neanderthals were hybrids of Neanderthals and Denisovans and other related types living at that time. The ancestors of the Nephilim come from the hybrid Neanderthals and Denisovans those would be what we would call pure blood Nephilim but are actually hybrids of the above who later at the time of Adam and Eve and their families interbreed with each other’s families. This creates the new Nephilim mentioned in the bible now their hybrids of Neanderthals, Denisovans, at least one other type that later mixed with Denisovans and Adam and Eve’s offspring. After this the Nephilim offspring are now Adam & Eve offspring/Nephilim hybrids. After some time, the flood occurs, and Noah’s family is said to be the only survivors who go on to repopulate the entire planet.
The greater robustness and strength of Neanderthals suggests that they may have lived longer. It is what we would expect given a greater lifespan.
Also, the gene for their ancient longevity is to be found within Neanderthal DNA. That’s why it is important for us to get the complete genome and locate the genes that differ from modern human ones.
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But what about all the floating Neanderthaloid DNA around in many modern human populations?
They didn’t all die out at once and modern humans took over like they used to think; classic Neanderthals and Denisovans (and maybe Rhodesia man) were overtook and absorbed by Homo sapiens sapiens, aka modern humans.
My husband and I both have considerable Neanderthal genetic makeup per our 23 and me DNA tests.
Early European Modern Humans (EEMH) lived at the same time as Neanderthals, and side-by-side. Neanderthal DNA is in genome of modern humans, and the DNA of modern humans has on at least one occasion been found in Neanderthal fossils.
The Bible, meanwhile, is a collection of myths, and there’s no harm in that. What is dangerous, however, is Evangelicals and Fundamentalists who refuse to exercise critical thinking, and who will spin fanciful theories in order to protect their cultural identity movement, political ideologies, and power structure. This danger is further augmented by the malignant narcissism of their leaders–people like Jerry Falwell, Jr., et al.
Perhaps one day they’ll grow up and recognize that their brand of Christianity is nothing more than a form of materialism and a crass power play.
Vince, thank you for your opinion. If you want to really understand Neanderthal, look at the raw DNA. You have been looking at it through evolutionary glasses. What you are giving me is the spin that has been imposed by the evolutionary elites. They are wrong but have the scientific community in fear of crossing them. Nonetheless, more and more scientists are dissenting the evolutionary position. There are lists of them:
More and more evolutionists are becoming disenchanted with evolutionary tenets. Here is one list, but there are many more: https://www.discovery.org/m/2019/02/A-Scientific-Dissent-from-Darwinism-List-020419.pdf
If the Bible is correct, and I have confidence it is, we will solve this dispute soon. Then we will know absolute truth. Or maybe we will cease to exist.
Thanks again and I do respect your opinion, we all have one.
Admin
I just got my DNA results and it says I have 74% Neanderthal gene?? Can you help me to understand what that means personally for me?? Concerned 😪
I need to know the details. Usually, the numbers are less than 10 percent. It depends on how they present the numbers. In truth, we all have approximately 99.5 percent Neanderthal DNA.
We at Genesis and Genetics think it good to have Neanderthal DNA. He had better muscle tone, teeth, a bigger brain, a longer lifespan, and bone structure than we have. We believe that Neanderthal was pre-flood man and superior to us. But, I am curious about who did your DNA and what that number represents.
ADMIN
You mentioned the term “critical thinking.” What are your presuppositions based upon? Do you have solid concrete evidence for your position? What religion do you have that gives you eternal hope?
WTF EVER. YOU ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THIS EARTH. YOU’RE NOT FROM HERE. THE EARTH DOES NOT WANT YOU HERE IDIOT. YOU’RE FINE WITH STEALING ANOTHER MAN’S IDENTITY AND LIVING HIS LIFE. MY LIFE. AND THAT’S ENDS RIGHT NOW TODAY. YOU NO LONGER HAE ACCESS TO EUROPEAN HISTORY AND CULTURE. IT BELONGS TO ME/.
I think that ur are lieing ur not the real man.jose
What about the fact that Africans do not have Neanderthal genes? That seems to cast doubt on the idea that Neanderthals are simply antideluvian man.
Kevin,
Remember, that the secular scientists embrace the “out of Africa” theory. The genetic markers selected to prove out of Africa are hand-selected, and a very, very small portion of the human genome is used. We have over 3 billion nucleotides in our genome, and only a few thousand are selected and used to support the “out of Africa” theory. I could prove out of Japan, Pakistan, Australia, or out of anywhere by selecting the right markers.
Look at the DNA yourself, and you will see.
Admin
P.S. The out of Africa theory will soon go down, the elite know it is not correct, and it will be quickly replaced by “out of Pakistan” which is getting closer to the true origin of post-flood humans: the Near East.
I agree that the out of Africa theory is incorrect.
Just to clarify, by using the terms ruddy and rosy, are you saying Noah and his family were white?
Bee,
No, I am not saying they were white; they were ruddy. Ruddy is more like having transparent skin. Those who are ruddy are red-colored because you see their blood. The life is in the blood and, in my opinion, God created Adam to be ruddy so we could see the life in him. Adam means red. All humans have blood, and we are all ruddy. However, since we have melanin, we have colors covering our redness. The reason we have various amounts of melanin is another topic.
I am a human who would be considered “white,” but I am not white; I am a different color. If you put a white paper next to me, you will see I am not white. I have never seen a white person. It all has to do with melanin.
I prescribe to the notion that Neanderthal is antediluvian man. Neanderthal has a different gene than modern-day humans. When we understand this gene, we will understand Adam’s color, and I am confident it will be “ruddy.”
Great article. It has answered a lot of questions for me. I appreciate the time you put into it. Thank you.
It has been my observation that Science which started from an original Biblical perspective and which took a different trajectory moving far away from that original position after Charles Darwin, is slowly taking a reverse swing, though painfully slow, and coming back to the earlier original position. Though secular scientists may have their own cherished personal prejudiced opinions, Science as a separate entity is slowly, inch by inch, moving towards where it should be.
I still remember the days when I used to read about “junk DNA”. Using the Biblical Scientific perspective, I “predicted” in those days that these “non-codified DNA” are not “junk” but will have certain roles to play. (What prompted me to predict was the false theory of ‘vestigial organs’ in Evolution). Today, contrary to the prejudices of secular scientists, Science has discovered that these non-codified DNA have specific functions to perform in the overall working of the DNA. Since the Biblical Scientific paradigm has enabled me to predict something correctly, can I treat that theory as scientific?!
Now I am glad that the earlier “ape-like” Neanderthals begin to appear more human than ape!
It is my personal conviction that if we “rightly divide the Word of God” then we will have no confrontation with Science. Bible and Science, both created by God, work shoulder to shoulder…….. in spite of the passionate vitriol from the atheists during all these decades!
Good work. Keep it up.
I agree 100%. There is no conflict between true science and God Word’s. It’s only when the science is done out a desire to disprove God and from the atheists perspective.
One thing lacking for the benefit of creation science is evidence for the existence of a supernatural creator.